CDC Cover-up’s Ivan Oransky Conceals BMC Violation

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By Jake Crosby

 

Some journalists are just ignorant; Ivan Oransky is not. He is Vice President of the “Association of Health Care Journalists” (AHCJ) – an organization of “journalists” funded by vaccine industry-tied groups dedicated to helping the CDC carry out its cover-up into the media. He also co-edits the blog “Retraction Watch,” which gleefully reported on the withdrawal of Dr. Brian Hooker’s paper that reported the very relationship between MMR and autism that CDC omitted from its original study. Oransky knows full well BioMed Central (BMC) breached policy when it pulled Dr. Hooker’s paper, but did Oransky report that, even though his blog reported on the removal of Dr. Hooker’s paper? Of course not, but he inadvertently revealed his knowledge of it in the email exchange I had with him after he vehemently defended the article’s deletion. Oransky also defended drastically altering my comment on his blog, grossly distorting what I said. (See full email exchange below)

After Oransky’s blog wrote about the pulling of Dr. Hooker’s paper without reporting about the BMC violation, CNN wrote an article from the same perspective as Oransky’s blog the very next day. CNN also added that Dr. Hooker’s paper was removed in a note above every relevant CNN iReport – without noting the BMC violation – disabled editing on the iReport CNN linked to from its article. What more can you expect when, as written elsewhere, Oransky’s wife is a writer/producer for none other than CNN?

Earlier this year, millionaire vaccine industrialist Paul Offit – who advised CDC’s immunization program while the fraud the whistleblower described was taking place – announced at AHCJ’s annual meeting that there should be “journalism jail” for journalists who write stories about debate on vaccines i.e. who try to report on the cover-up honestly. AHCJ gave pharma PR agent Trine Tsouderos an award for her hit pieces against notable scientists opposed to adverse vaccine side-effects like Dr. Boyd Haley. Over the years AHCJ has invited other co-conspirators such as Brian Deer, Walter Orenstein, Alison Singer, Diana SchendelArthur Allen and Seth Mnookin to its annual conference. Mnookin and Oransky were old college friends; they also have dishonesty in common. Additionally, AHCJ has even teamed up with CDC to train reporters to disseminate its propaganda – no doubt in line with former HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ statement about telling media outlets not to report on vaccine dangers.

As Congress investigates the CDC for fraud like that revealed by the whistleblower William Thompson, Congress should also investigate CDC’s collusion with “journalists” like Ivan Oransky, AHCJ and related people and groups who don’t abide by journalistic standards and therefore do not deserve any press freedom protections. Such people should be fully investigated as co-conspirators and any investigation that leaves them out or fails to recognize them as such will be wholly inadequate.

The below email exchange demonstrates that all the more:

On Monday, September 1, 2014, <info@autisminvestigated.com> wrote:

Hi,

The text of my comment was altered to make it look like I said something I didn’t:

“How come no one is reporting that I believe BioMed Central’s take-down of Dr. Hooker’s article is a violation of the publisher’s own policies on article removal?”

This is what I really said:

“How come no one is reporting that BioMed Central’s take-down of Dr. Hooker’s article is clearly a violation of the publisher’s own policies on article removal, which states such action is only done under the explicit avoidance of threatened legal claims”

I don’t want anyone to report what “I believe,” I want journalists to report what actually happened. It is clear from BioMed Central’s policies that the take-down of Dr. Hooker’s article was a violation of them. Reporting on the take-down without reporting on the violation lends undue legitimacy to the censorship of a scientific paper.

Sincerely,

Jake Crosby, MPH
Editor, Autism Investigated
www.autisminvestigated.com

 

——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Re: Mangled comment misquotes me.
From: Ivan Oransky ivan-oransky@erols.com
Date: Mon, September 01, 2014 7:29 pm
To: “info@autisminvestigated.com” info@autisminvestigated.com
Cc: “adam.marcus1@gmail.com” <adam.marcus1@gmail.com>

 

What you said left out most of BMC’s actual policy, and that leaves it as your belief that they violated said policy. Your choice is to have it as is, which conforms to our comment policy, particularly the part about unverified allegations, or have it deleted altogether. You’re welcome to post whatever version you want elsewhere.

 

On Monday, September 1, 2014, <info@autisminvestigated.com> wrote:

It’s not my “belief,” you can view the entire policy on BMC’s website and see for yourself that it contradicts the excuse for pulling the paper: http://www.biomedcentral.com/about/permanency 

I also said I wanted others to report on this – not on my opinion of it. So the wording still misrepresents what I said, even without taking verification into account.

 

Subject: Re: Mangled comment misquotes me.
From: Ivan Oransky ivan-oransky@erols.com
Date: Mon, September 01, 2014 8:18 pm
To: “info@autisminvestigated.com” info@autisminvestigated.com
Cc: “adam.marcus1@gmail.com” adam.marcus1@gmail.com
We included the entire policy, which you neglected to do and which contradicts what you wrote, along with both statements about why the paper was removed, which you also neglected to do. Your choice is still to have it as is, or simply deleted. Just let us know which you would like.

 

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:46 AM, <info@autisminvestigated.com> wrote:

No, it backs up what I wrote, and I explain that fully. You neglect to explain how it’s contradicted at all. I included the entire policy in a screenshot on the webpage I linked to along with the statement that was more specific, contrary to your claim that I didn’t. You chopped the second half of my first sentence, making it less immediately clear how the policy was violated. It’s also misleading to portray me as asking why nobody is reporting that I believe a certain way about this issue, as opposed to simply asking why nobody is reporting on the issue itself.

By mangling my comment this way, are you trying to make me want you to delete my comment?

 

——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Re: Mangled comment misquotes me.
From: Ivan Oransky ivan-oransky@erols.com
Date: Tue, September 02, 2014 3:56 am
To: “info@autisminvestigated.com” <info@autisminvestigated.com>, Adam
Marcus <>

The second half of that sentence, “which states such action is only done under the explicit avoidance of “threatened legal claims,” is incorrect and misrepresents BMC’s policy. The part of the policy in question: “…in the exceptional event that material is considered to infringe certain rights or is defamatory we may have no option but to remove that material from our site and those sites on which we have deposited the material in question.

BioMed Central therefore reserves the right to cease to make available articles that it has been advised are potentially defamatory or that infringe any intellectual property right, or are otherwise unlawful.”

The two relevant notices also make it clear that your original comment’s claim that “However, Dr. Hooker’s paper was only taken down on the excuse of ‘possible undeclared competing interests'” is also incorrect.

You continue to have two choices: Leaving the comment as is, or have it deleted.

Ivan Oransky, MD
Vice President and Global Editorial Director, MedPage Today http://medpagetoday.com
Co-Founder, Retraction Watch http://retractionwatch.com
Founder, Embargo Watch http://embargowatch.wordpress.com
Adjunct Associate Professor, New York University’s Science, Health, and Environmental Reporting Program
Vice President, Association of Health Care Journalists
Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine, New York University School of Medicine
http://twitter.com/ivanoransky
917-359-2113

 

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:52 PM, <info@autisminvestigated.com> wrote:

Actually, it is correct and is an accurate representation. The reason of “threatened legal claims” is the reason BioMed Central gives for striking articles, that was not the reason it gave for striking Dr. Hooker’s article. That’s clear in this “open access” publisher’s policy you partially quoted.

The more specific notice made it clear that “undeclared possible competing interests” was the reason for the paper’s removal and that “validity” and “public interest” were concerns supposedly stemming from that. Regardless, none of these are “threatened legal claims” – the actual reason BioMed Central gives for striking articles according to policy. Since this was not the reason given for striking Dr. Hooker’s article, his article was therefore deleted in violation of that policy.

One of my readers – ironically the one who told me to contact you – said your misrepresentation of my comment as asking why no one is reporting “that I believe” a certain way about an issue makes me look “unhinged.”

Is that your intent? Either censoring me or making me look unhinged, but giving me a choice between the two so you can then claim you did one or the other with my approval? Sure looks like it.

Jake Crosby, MPH
Editor, Autism Investigated
www.autisminvestigated.com

 

——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Re: Mangled comment misquotes me.
From: Ivan Oransky ivan-oransky@erols.com
Date: Tue, September 02, 2014 7:22 pm
To: “info@autisminvestigated.com” info@autisminvestigated.com
Cc: Adam Marcus <adam.marcus1@gmail.com>

You wrote that removal “is only done under the explicit avoidance of ‘threatened legal claims.'” The policy actually gives two other reasons for removal: “that material is considered to infringe certain rights or is defamatory.” That makes “only” incorrect, and a misrepresentation of the policy.

Our only intent is to verify claims in our comments, and the claim your comment made is incorrect. You continue to have two choices: Leave the comment as it is now, or delete it.

Ivan Oransky, MD
Vice President and Global Editorial Director, MedPage Today http://medpagetoday.com
Co-Founder, Retraction Watch http://retractionwatch.com
Founder, Embargo Watch http://embargowatch.wordpress.com
Adjunct Associate Professor, New York University’s Science, Health, and Environmental Reporting Program
Vice President, Association of Health Care Journalists
Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine, New York University School of Medicine
http://twitter.com/ivanoransky
917-359-2113

 

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:41 PM, <info@autisminvestigated.com> wrote:

Well given that “threatened legal claims” are what the publisher says it hopes to avoid when taking down articles for either of those reasons, “threatened legal claims” are essentially the publisher’s only reason for taking down articles. Since none of what you quote was given in the publisher’s excuse for pulling Dr. Hooker’s article, will you at least finally acknowledge its deletion was in violation of the publisher’s policy for article removal?

Well you’re not acting like that’s your intent by treating verified facts as unverified claims. Nor are you acting like that’s your intent by giving me this ultimatum of either allowing you to keep my butchered comment up as is or having it deleted altogether without replacing it with a corrected version. As you can see from my comment submission (attached), your representation me as asking why others aren’t reporting “that I believe” a certain way is not only “unverified,” but plainly false.

commenttoretractionwatch 

 

——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Re: Mangled comment misquotes me.
From: Ivan Oransky ivan-oransky@erols.com
Date: Thu, September 04, 2014 10:51 am
To: “info@autisminvestigated.com” info@autisminvestigated.com
Cc: Adam Marcus <adam.marcus1@gmail.com>

Your two choices for this comment remain: Leave the comment as it is now, or delete it. If you want to submit future comments, you’re more than welcome to do so, but they too will be subject to our comments policy.

Ivan Oransky, MD
Vice President and Global Editorial Director, MedPage Today http://medpagetoday.com
Co-Founder, Retraction Watch http://retractionwatch.com
Founder, Embargo Watch http://embargowatch.wordpress.com
Adjunct Associate Professor, New York University’s Science, Health, and Environmental Reporting Program
Vice President, Association of Health Care Journalists
Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine, New York University School of Medicine
http://twitter.com/ivanoransky
917-359-2113

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 8:38 PM, <info@autisminvestigated.com> wrote:

Why the silence on BMC’s violation of its own policy?

You clearly did not follow your own comments policy in the way you edited my comment, which I do not approve of. That said, I won’t approve of you deleting it without putting up a corrected version either.

Looks like you and BMC both have trouble following your own rules.

——– Original Message ——–
Subject: Re: Mangled comment misquotes me.
From: Ivan Oransky ivan-oransky@erols.com
Date: Thu, September 04, 2014 5:55 pm
To: “info@autisminvestigated.com” info@autisminvestigated.com
Cc: Adam Marcus <adam.marcus1@gmail.com>

To repeat: You misrepresented BMC’s policy, and you misrepresented the reasons they stated for the removal. You then based the “violation” allegation on your misrepresentations, which made the allegations inaccurate. We then edited your comment so that it no longer included those misrepresentations and inaccuracies.

You are free to post a new comment, as has also been mentioned in this thread, that will also be subject to our comments policy. If that is what you mean by “corrected version,” you’re welcome to submit one. Your choices for the already-posted comment, however, remain the same as they’ve been throughout this exchange.

Ivan Oransky, MD
Vice President and Global Editorial Director, MedPage Today http://medpagetoday.com
Co-Founder, Retraction Watch http://retractionwatch.com
Founder, Embargo Watch http://embargowatch.wordpress.com
Adjunct Associate Professor, New York University’s Science, Health, and Environmental Reporting Program
Vice President, Association of Health Care Journalists
Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine, New York University School of Medicine
http://twitter.com/ivanoransky
917-359-2113

 

Finally, I responded:

Here’s what you said:

“You wrote that removal ‘is only done under the explicit avoidance of ‘threatened legal claims.'” The policy actually gives two other reasons for removal: ‘that material is considered to infringe certain rights or is defamatory.'”

In your priggish and failed attempt to correct me on BMC’s policy for removing articles, you inadvertently showed that the take-down of Dr. Hooker’s article did violate BMC’s policy. BMC provided no such reasons for deleting Dr. Hooker’s article in either statement, even if you count whatever possible concerns that were raised from the reason of “possible undeclared competing interests” as reasons as well.

Don’t expect any more comment submissions from me.

 

I’ve never heard anything back since.

 

Jake Crosby is editor of Autism Investigated. He is a 2011 graduate of Brandeis University with a Bachelor of Arts in both History and Health: Science, Society and Policy and a 2013 graduate of The George Washington University School of Public Health and Health Services with a Master of Public Health in Epidemiology. He currently attends the University of Texas School of Public Health where he is studying for a Ph.D. in Epidemiology

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84 Thoughts on “CDC Cover-up’s Ivan Oransky Conceals BMC Violation

  1. Media Scholar on September 19, 2014 at 9:25 am said:

    The take-down of Hooker’s paper is clear. The fact that the purported reason for disenfranchising the paper, which indicates a strong association between MMR vaccine and significance in Autism seen in young black males, has mutated at least three times documented here simply means these rube-aggressive tactics are equal to unfair and inappropriate pressure.

    As the saying goes….

    “Divorced from ethics, leadership is reduced to management and politics to mere technique.”

    The technique of censoring your comments makes this crackpot all the more qualified in terms of the rube part of rube-aggressive. He is playing mere politics.

    He manages to admit he censored your post. You clearly have total proof he refuses to comply with repeated requests to undo his censorship. His insistence on tight control proves a maniacal obsession with anything from comments to perceptions of public health to allowing himself to use comments as a form of psychological experimentation.

    He is incorrect in his calculation of available options. If he fails to undo his hack work on your comments soon as the correct option, he simply can not be relied upon as a normal functioning human being. We can figure he is a evil obfuscationist, hell-bent on abusing American children via the US Centers For Disease Control No-Show Agenda standards and methods.

    It is, therefore, completely reasonable you win as his ploy trips all over itself.

    Congratulations!

  2. White Rose on September 19, 2014 at 1:18 pm said:

    Oransky reminds me of that Japanese soldier in the jungle in one of the islands still fighting the war 35 years after it was over (in fact the Japanese soldier is far more honourable) .

    Marvellous recording of William Thompson about the CDC being paralysed by fear . Good .
    Marshalyn , Colleen , DeStefano , Offit , Cordoba , and the rest of you , are all going to prison for this .
    For the rest of your natural lives .

    Watch out Oransky that you don’t get dragged into the abyss too .

    • Actually, I am still totally against the release of snippets from recordings of Dr. Thompson’s voice. I also think it’s crazy how there appears to be a silhouetted actor in the latest video involving his recordings.

  3. Jake, it seems like it would have been more straightforward to either suggest an alternative edit in accord with the comment policy, post a follow-up, or request deletion and start fresh. Something along the lines of “It appears to me that BMC has violated its own policy [link to policy] by disappearing this paper rather than letting it stand with the expression of concern,” etc. I can’t really look at the COPE guidelines right at the moment, but you might also find support in there.

    • I was only given two choices – leave the comment as is, or delete it entirely.

      • I was only given two choices – leave the comment as is, or delete it entirely.

        Yes, but as I mentioned, you could have opted for deletion and posted a revised version. For that matter, you didn’t ask whether modification of the clumsy edit was possible.

        • And what, have that “revised version” butchered too?

          I actually did submit a comment pointing out how my previous comment was butchered, but the second one I submitted remains stuck in moderation limbo.

  4. That guy is one sick arsehole. How does he live with himself? Does he have kids?

    • I’d imagine the money he gets from his various affiliations allows him to live quite comfortably with himself.

      • Well one thing’s for sure. The Zinfandel/carb diet isn’t working for him.

        • I suspect the wine drinking is about upping his status more than anything else. Hence the inclusion of it in his Twitter bio.

        • @jen – isn’t making fun of someone because of their weight “being a bully?”

          I thought you guys didn’t like bullies…..

          • We don’t, but perhaps Oransky should spend less time dictating to media outlets on how and what to report about certain health issues and spend more time improving his own health. There’s always room for improvement and far more to that than drinking Zinfandel.

          • And what would you call those who purposely gloss over the fact that a top CDC scientist has said there are huge problems within the vaccine program, Larry? People who don’t care that black children are at a much greater of autism? I’d call them bullies, racists,perhaps sociopaths…

            • @Jen – and the evidence that African-American boys are getting diagnosed with autism at a rate substantially higher than everyone else, is what exactly?

              • The original data showed a statistically significant association between timing of MMR and autism in African American boys. Is that plain enough for you? Why do you waste your time here trying to convince people with lies or obfuscation?

                • @Jen – no, what I asked is where is the evidence that African-american children are being diagnosed with autism at a rate significantly higher than everyone else….

                  If Hooker’s hypothesis is correct, then we should be seeing these numbers bear out in the general population….so, where are they?

  5. Ivan Oransky, MD
    Vice President and Global Editorial Director, MedPage Today http://medpagetoday.com
    Co-Founder, Retraction Watch http://retractionwatch.com
    Founder, Embargo Watch http://embargowatch.wordpress.com
    Adjunct Associate Professor, New York University’s Science, Health, and Environmental Reporting Program
    Vice President, Association of Health Care Journalists
    Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine, New York University School of Medicine
    http://twitter.com/ivanoransky

    ———————–

    So if I understand this correctly, Ivan Oranski is both an MD, and a Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine.

    And yet the majority of his time is spent practicing…. journalism?????

    That doesn’t even make sense.

  6. It does if you’re image obsessed, have no values and like money.

    • I’m with you on the no values part Jen, but image and salary are probably the two biggest reasons why people study medicine in the first place.

      According to money.usnews.com, a general internist earns an average annual salary of of $191,520.

      But according to journalism.about.com, a reporter can expect to earn $20 – 30K at small newspapers, $35 – $55K at medium-sized papers, and $60 K or greater at a large newspaper. And salaries at news websites would be in the same ballpark as newspapers.

      Walking away from a career as a physician is strange enough, especially if you’re doing it to become an internet reporter. But there’s no way that Oransky should be earning more as a web-journalist, than be could have by continuing to practice medicine.

      And if he is, then maybe that’s something a website like this one could be investigating.

  7. White Rose on September 21, 2014 at 8:11 am said:

    “image obsessed” …..too funny .

    Immoral and money obsessed , sounds like a recipe for prison time to me .

    • Oransky and “journalists” like him are no different from the likes of Schendel, Offit, Orenstein and other central figures of the CDC cover-up. All these people have spoken at the annual conference held by Oransky’s group, instructing journalists what to report and what not to report about vaccine side-effects.

      People like Oransky deserve no free press protections and should be fully investigated as co-conspirators. They think, however, that they can get away with what they’re doing under cover of protections afforded to the free press they don’t practice.

  8. Media Scholar on September 23, 2014 at 7:33 am said:

    I think the more appropriate word is antagonistic.

    Search news and there are thousands of antagonizing articles each one threatening the general public with massive death due to a panic virus de jour unless all stand up and take notice of how active the US Centers For Disease Control is currently fighting viral windmills on the plain.

    If the US CDC appears to be busy, the general public tends to be less interested in knowing this very agency has been fudging Autism research since day one as part of their ‘No Show’ agenda.

    Taking down Hooker’s paper doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with it. It simply means the publishers are being antagonized by industry operatives to the point they have lost their sense of right and wrong.

    There is no way on earth that NOT telling Americans about the obvious results of epidemiological research doctored up to avoid indicating a clear connection between vaccination and the onset of varying degrees of negative neurological outcome serves the so called greater good.

    As telling Americans this is so serves the greater good by helping those avoid these negative neurological outcomes subject to such antagonistic pressure, the world of vaccines seeks to counteract the truth, not serve the greater good.

  9. White Rose on September 23, 2014 at 8:13 am said:

    Herod, please dont even dare to comment about journalism or censorship to any of the parents here .
    We are subject to 100% news black out , zero discourse , zero discussion .
    They hold debates on TV without the opposition being present (eg BBC Newsnight Clare Gerada)
    Vaccines are safe & effective is the endless duplicitious lying message , whilst we know very different .
    This is a very dark period in history for sure . The guilty will be held accountable .

  10. Doug Troutman on September 24, 2014 at 1:46 am said:

    Vaccines are safe and effective for manufacturer not the consumer. The carry no liability and the cause life time chronic disease. I didn’t know organizations like Oransky operates existed. I am sure its a great job since he doesn’t have to get his hands dirty being a doctor. I guess honesty and integrity are obsolete virtues now.

  11. White Rose on September 27, 2014 at 9:40 am said:

    Offits Rotateq vaccine has a contamination of a simian virus !
    the baboon virus M7 (& he has known all along – bet you anything)

    Offit , now its official , you are a vaccine-nazi . Offit you are a criminal of the very worst kind .

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/breaking-news-millions-children-infected-vaccine-safety-experts-rotateq-vaccine

  12. White Rose on October 1, 2014 at 9:18 am said:

    “President Barack Obama rode in a lift with an armed security contractor who had assault convictions, in another security lapse.
    It happened on 16 September when Mr Obama visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
    The incident came to light on Tuesday, hours after the boss of the Secret Service was grilled by Congress about a security breach at the White House. ”

    What was the president doing at the cdc on September 16th ?

  13. Lawrence on October 1, 2014 at 4:15 pm said:

    Perhaps receiving a briefing on the Ebola situation in Africa?

    Seriously, is everything a conspiracy to you, WR?

    • You mean, getting up to speed on the next planned mass vaccination for North America?

      Let me guess, we’re just now seeing the the first “confirmed’ cases in America. It arrived here by plane, and as dumb luck would have it, some north american company just happens to have been developing a vaccine for just such an outbreak.

      Which will no doubt be rushed through production and testing soon.

      You can call it conspiracy theory if that make you feel better. But most people see it as the same old, lazy fiction that just keeps on eroding public trust in anything the medical community says.

  14. Lawrence on October 2, 2014 at 7:08 pm said:

    @Barry – perhaps you were unaware that Ebola has been killing people in Africa since the 1950s.

    And the confirmed case here, was a person who contracted it in Africa & happened to be returning back to the US. So, we shouldn’t be developing a vaccine for a disease that killed upwards of 50 – 90% of the people (all of them in Africa so far)?

    And we’ve been saying for quite some time that most diseases are only a plane-ride away…..thank goodness it is only Ebola, which, in a country with an adequate medical system, is very hard to spread.

    I’m looking forward to better treatments and a vaccine – to keep those in Africa safe.

    • So …. it’s been killing peole in Africa since the 50’s, but it’s just now making it to North America by plane?

      At exactly the time when an experimental Ebola vaccine just happens to be ready for test trials on humans???

      Whatever you say Larry. When you line up for your Ebola vaccine, you can have mine too.

  15. White Rose on October 3, 2014 at 8:29 am said:

    “And we’ve been saying for quite some time that most diseases are only a plane-ride away”

    Who is “we” Larry ?

    And I’ll happily help roll up your sleeve for the tekimura vaccine . Left or right arm Larry ?
    I will not be taking that vaccine no matter what the weather ,& I am not alone . We do not believe you Larry .

    Also most commentators seem to suggest that Ebola first appeared in the 70’s . you know the Nixon years . Richard was an honest man (he could easily get a job at the cdc at least) . SCVP Robert Gallo and all that .

    Much more intelligent people than both you and I have suggested Ebola is a man made biological weapon .
    And all these rumours about the patents and ownership of Ebola .
    What happened to Aids Larry – that doesnt get mentioned much anymore ?
    We have had two swine flu hoaxes now 1976 & 2009 (thanks Nancy Snyderman) .

  16. White Rose on October 3, 2014 at 8:37 am said:

    I tell you what is galling is to see Dan Olmsted singing the cdc’s praises for the Ebola response over at AoA .
    Dan – you cannot be serious ?

    I am completely convinced AoA is dirty , compromised , working for the PharmaHarma .

    The cdc should be on trial for crimes against humanity – the whole lot of them .
    As for these William Thompson rumours “the cdc is paralysed by fear” – I’d love to believe that but all I’ve seen is a ramping up of the Hg-enocide program (eg preganant women must recieve the Hg-flu jab , and the defective pertussis poison) . And hear we go again with the mass fake flu vaccine program .
    Yeah the cdc look paralyzed with fear alright .

    Larry , how do you feel about the Lancet quietly classifying fluoride as a neurotoxin now ?
    Are you drinking fluoridated water ? its a possible explanation I suppose .

  17. White Rose on October 3, 2014 at 11:31 am said:

    The Marburg Virus Outbreak
    8 of 10

    0‹‹ Criticality Accidents When Smallpox Escapes ››

    In 1967, 31 workers at a laboratory in Marburg, Germany began suffering from an array of horrifying symptoms: fever, diarrhea, vomiting, and massive bleeding from a variety of internal organs. Seven of the workers would eventually succumb to their illnesses.

    After an extensive investigation, scientists identified the source of the outbreak, a pair of grivet monkeys imported from Uganda for polio research. The primates were carrying a shocking, never-before-seen virus, which later was named Marburg for the city in which it was discovered. Researchers described it in Science:

    By electron microscopy, the agent appeared cylindrical, 90 to 100 nanometers in diameter, and 130 to 2600 nanometers in length. Cross-striations at 5-nanometer intervals and a core diameter of 45 nanometers were observed. The agent was completely resistant to the effects of the metabolic inhibitor 5-bromodeoxyuridine, which may mean that RNA is the genetic material. It was sensitive to ether and relatively sensitive to destruction by heat.

    Since its discovery, Marburg has remained mysterious, surfacing, killing, then disappearing. It spreads by contact with bodily fluids like blood, urine, or saliva. To date, the worst outbreak occurred in Angola in 2005. 252 cases were reported, 90% of which resulted in fatalities.

  18. Doug Troutman on October 3, 2014 at 10:00 pm said:

    Larry – Ebola has probably been with us forever. They are just better at diagnosing it now.

    • Lawrence on October 4, 2014 at 10:55 am said:

      I recommend reading “Spillover” the facts behind how diseases make the jump between animals and humans. Dedicated research has been able to identify approximately when HIV made the jump to humans (around the 1930s) and charting its inevitable spread to larger populations before exploding into a full-fledged pandemic.

      It also talks quite a bit about Ebola as well – you could certainly learn a few things. Of course, the next big disease vector appears to be bats – with several small, but significant outbreaks in Asia (including SARS) linked to various species of bats.

      If you weren’t so embedded in conspiracies, you could actually learn a whole lot about the science and history of disease.

  19. lol Doug, that was funny.

  20. Lawrence on October 4, 2014 at 5:43 pm said:

    And it’s gone……

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4183946/?report=reader

    Hooker needs a new line of work, because research isn’t working out for him.

  21. Lawrence on October 4, 2014 at 5:52 pm said:

    young African American boys: a reanalysis of CDC data
    Brian S Hookercorresponding author1
    Author information ► Article notes ► Copyright and License information ►
    This retracts the article “Measles-mumps-rubella vaccination timing and autism among young african american boys: a reanalysis of CDC data” on page 16, which was published in final edited form.
    Go to:

    Retraction
    The Editor and Publisher regretfully retract the article [1] as there were undeclared competing interests on the part of the author which compromised the peer review process. Furthermore, post-publication peer review raised concerns about the validity of the methods and statistical analysis, therefore the Editors no longer have confidence in the soundness of the findings. We apologise to all affected parties for the inconvenience caused.

  22. Doug Troutman on October 5, 2014 at 12:35 am said:

    I guess the CDC crew should look for work should look for other work since they found the same results.

  23. White Rose on October 5, 2014 at 9:12 am said:

    My sincerest apologies Larry . I cannot apologise enough . Vaccines are not the cause of Autism .
    Vaccines truly are safe and effective . We have all been delusional but are coming back onside now .
    Vaccines are not the industrial and institutional mass murder that I thought they were at all .

    So now we have cleared all that up . Perhaps the mass mainstream media can report the whole story in full to allow a fully informed general public make up their own minds . No need for the state censorship anymore . No need for the complete news blackout . Right ? You agree right ?
    We can open and honest about vaccines at last – because vaccines are wonderful – not the sorry , failed and flawed technology that I believed them to be .

  24. White Rose on October 5, 2014 at 10:58 am said:

    Jon Rappoport says the 100,000 pages should be released to everyone online .
    I think he has a good argument .

    Brian Hooker – are you there ? why not ? Let us see the documents ? Let us examine them .
    We will happily wade through them .

    http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/09/RIR-140926.php

    Hillary Clinton , Melanie Gates , Colleen Boyle , Marshalyn Yeargin Allsopp .
    What kind of women are you ? Seriously .
    That you could allow the industrialised poisoning of our babies to continue . Shame on you all .

    • Lawrence on October 5, 2014 at 12:48 pm said:

      @WhiteRose – I couldn’t agree more. Let’s get these documents out in the open for a true evaluation.

      Now that you mention it, let’s have Wakefield and Hooker release all of the “unedited” tapes of Thompson, so we can hear for ourselves if he really said (in context) what he is purported to have said.

      How about Hooker releasing, into the public domain, all of his other material as well?

      If you’re all about transparency (and Jake appears to be as well) – then these demands should be sacrosanct on both sides of the house, correct?

  25. Doug Troutman on October 5, 2014 at 5:27 pm said:

    You know that SV-40 virus jumped from the monkey right into the polio vaccine.

    • Lawrence on October 5, 2014 at 10:18 pm said:

      Perhaps you should do a bit of research to understand how diseases jump from species to species….it actual is fascinating science.

  26. White Rose on October 6, 2014 at 8:36 am said:

    So Larry if I understand you correctly you also agree about the Global state censorship to protect vaccine reputation should end ? Transparency and all that ?

    “Perhaps you should do a bit of research to understand how diseases jump from species to species….it actual is fascinating science.”
    Yes Maurice Hilleman did his bit to tell us how vaccines poisoned 120M americans with the carcinogen Sv40, which the cdc has admitted on its own website . Do you know more than the godfather of vaccine Larry ?

  27. Lawrence on October 6, 2014 at 9:28 am said:

    @WhiteRose – rather than being concerned about crackpot conspiracy theories, I am concerned about a rise in outbreaks of diseases in places like Australia, India, and the Philippines – all linked to Bats.

    Several new diseases seem to be on the verge of making the jump into the human population – all of them with current mortality rates anywhere from 25 – 90%. As humans continue to expand into areas in which they will have direct contact with species that they’ve hardly interacted with before, the opportunities for cross-species jumps will increase – which is where we got HIV / AIDS, SARS and now MERS.

    Of course, you can keep hiding under your tin-foil hat….but the rest of the world is moving along & there are actually real issues out there that the rest of us get to deal with.

  28. Media Scholar on October 14, 2014 at 6:44 am said:

    I am concerned about a rise in outbreaks of diseases in places like Australia, India, and the Philippines – all linked to Bats.
    ———————
    People with lots of phobias tend to support mass vaccination.

    You understand this is now on your record, and when asked to visit room 101 you can expect…BATS!

  29. Question Ivan Oransky on December 13, 2014 at 4:28 am said:

    There are quite a few concerns about Ivan Oransky that have been cropping up lately, including:
    a) comment manipulation at Retraction Watch (euphemistically dubbed as “moderation”), including comment withdrawal and removal of those comments that do not satisfy his personal ego, or those that criticize him, or RW;
    b) lack of transparency on his “About Us” page at RW, including a total failure to show any of his publishing record;
    c) his potential lack of declaration of actual or potential conflicts of interest (COIs) with industry and with media giant CNN (given that he has an insider there, his wife);
    d) his lack of declaration of the finances received, for what purposes, and from whom (so, no financial accountability or transparency);
    e) potential self-plagiarism in the presentations he makes;
    f) the failure to address public concerns and criticisms about him, his career, his profile, his blogs, his companies and his true interest in shaming scientists at RW.

    One could say, from the very little of what is known about Ivan Oransky, that these aspects alone are of considerable concern to the scientific community for one simple reason: how can this so-called journalist be holding scientists and the scientific community up to one set of standards, demanding of them accountability, openness and transparency, when he himself practices the absolute inverse, in several cases? Surely, this gentleman should be investigated much more, including the team members that are supporting him?

    Interestingly, some of those concerns have been documented on another blog:
    http://scienceretractions.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/interview-with-dr-ariel-fernandez-on-the-nature-paper-controversy/#comments
    http://scienceretractions.wordpress.com/2014/11/22/retraction-watch-tracks-down-scientific-corruption-huh/#comments

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