Rep. Bill Posey Speaks on CDC Cover-Up Before Congress

Congressman Bill Posey speaks on cover-up of vaccine safety research results, destruction of documents and whistleblower Dr. William Thompson at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concerning the 2004 study in the journal Pediatrics purporting to show no association between age of measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination and onset of autism in children.

Highlight from the video (Thompson quoted by Posey):

“All the authors and I met and decided sometime between August and September ’02 not to report any race effects from the paper. Sometime soon after the meeting we decided to exclude reporting any race effects, the coauthors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the study. The remaining four coauthors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard-copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can. However, because I assumed it was illegal and would violate both FOIA and DoJ requests, I kept hard copies of all documents in my office and I retained all associated computer files. I believe we intentionally withheld controversial findings from the final draft of the Pediatrics paper.”

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36 Thoughts on “Rep. Bill Posey Speaks on CDC Cover-Up Before Congress

  1. Eddie Unwind on July 29, 2015 at 10:50 pm said:

    Hey, my garbage bin! No seriously, this seems like highly significant news, Jake.

  2. Hans Litten on July 30, 2015 at 4:47 am said:

    1 year waiting for this !
    Not enough for me .

    In the last year I’d estimate in the US UK alone , perhaps 200,000 babies were made autistic .
    The deliberate maiming of babies by stealth , its hard to fathom a society as sick as that .
    It makes the human sacrifice of the ancient past look positively humane .
    I guess we have great t(h)inkers like the WELSH hitler Betrand Russell to thank for this.

    http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Biology/Eugenics.htm

    • Narad on July 30, 2015 at 11:22 pm said:

      In the last year I’d estimate in the US UK alone [sic], perhaps 200,000 babies were made autistic .

      Given that the UK has a birth cohort of ~700,000, I’m sure it would be fascinating if you showed your work.

  3. Hans Litten on July 30, 2015 at 4:58 am said:

    Dear Betrand :

    “I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing… War… has hitherto been dissappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full… The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of that? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people’s… There are three ways of securing a society that shall be stable as regards population. The first is that of birth control, the second that of infanticide or really destructive wars, and the third that of general misery except for a powerful minority…
    War has been throughout history, the chief source of social cohesion by providing an external necessity for a society to accept political rule.”

  4. Hans Litten on July 30, 2015 at 5:05 am said:

    Dear Dear Betrand : (& then go and have a look at a picture of the inbred weakling himself) .

    “Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. Even if all are miserable, all will believe themselves happy, because the government will tell them that they are so.”
    Russell, Bertrand. The Impact of Science on Society. 1951.

    • Eddie Unwind on July 30, 2015 at 12:36 pm said:

      Very interesting, and typically unsettling, Russell quotes. Not an uncommon perspective for British intellectuals of that era. Even Aldous Huxley – in my view a great humanitarian overall – adopted a pro-eugenics standpoint in the (for memory) 1930’s, and naturally enough felt very differently upon the subsequent rise of fascism. But in Russell’s case things remained disturbingly ambiguous, despite his many arguments for establishing a humane society (In Praise of Idleness etc).

  5. Hans Litten on July 30, 2015 at 6:45 am said:

    Jake – it is time for a follow up on Dr Jeff Bradstreets death , and all the other doctors , and the story of GcMaf ? If not by you , then allow me to post it up here please ?

    The rumours are rife and its going international .

    • I don’t know any of those other doctors well, so there is no obvious relationship to Bradstreet other than the timing of their deaths. It’s the circumstances surrounding his own death that are the most fishy, but that doesn’t mean we should fill the gaps in evidence with rumors just because they’re being widely circulated elsewhere. It doesn’t do his family any good, and it certainly doesn’t respect their request that supporters refrain from spreading those rumors – tempting though it may be.

      Fwiw, however, I do plan on following up…

  6. Eddie Unwind on July 30, 2015 at 9:25 pm said:

    My only concern here is whether or not this effort before congress reflects little beyond Thompson trying to relieve his own conscience. Is the gesture (so to speak) passive, or constructive? One might imagine that Thompson has something more concrete on offer by way of supportive evidence, tending to the latter, or is this the end of it? Your thoughts, Jake…

  7. Eddie Unwind on July 30, 2015 at 11:04 pm said:

    Ok, good enough Jake. But given all this, how is it that Thompson still works for the CDC? Personally I can interpret it in only a few ways:

    – Thompson wishes to demonstrate solidarity with respect to his relationship with the CDC, in which event he has ultimately no intention of upsetting the apple-cart.

    – In light of Wakefield’s licence being removed and the reflexive ‘invalidation’ of his subsequent statements, Thompson is determined to maintain professional credibility no matter what.

    – An exquisitely balanced combination of the two (Thompson would have to be one hell of a good actor to pull THAT off. I’d fancy Wakefield’s chances much more in this respect!).

    But perhaps there’s more, or less, to it. It’s very mysterious.

  8. Argus on July 31, 2015 at 3:47 am said:

    “The remaining four coauthors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard-copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can.”
    This does not say that any of the documents that were supposedly discarded or destroyed were essential to the study or even the original copies. For example, they could have been sorting through the records to make sure to retain what was important or required to be kept, and discarding things that had no importance (like last weeks lunch receipt). Why was Thompson not more descriptive about what went into the garbage can and what didn’t?
    If these are even his own words. The closest the public has ever come to hearing directly from him is the statement put out through his lawyers. Everything else has been third parties repeating what they claim he said (or texted). It’s laughable that he called a “whistleblower”. What so called wrong-doing has he ever reported to someone with the authority to investigate? That’s what real whistleblowers do.

    • Eddie Unwind on July 31, 2015 at 8:22 am said:

      Argus, it sounds as though you would make many motions before congress.

    • Argus, you’re just being disingenuous. It was not last week’s lunch receipt that they were chucking, Thompson made very clear it was “documents related to the study.”

      • Argus Filch on August 2, 2015 at 6:43 pm said:

        “Documents related to the study”
        Excuse my little hyperbole with the lunch receipt. But the larger point is – were these documents that should have been, or needed to be retained? I can just as easily picture that they were sorting through what needed to be retained, and only discarding what was duplicative or unnecessary. We just don’t know, do we?
        And what about the fact that this story did not come directly from Thompson himself? Are you just accepting what someone else says he said like you did with the text messages?

        • But the point of your hyperbole was to suggest the discarded documents were not related to the study when they were. Now you’re admitting they were, but were unnecessary to keep. Meanwhile, Thompson has copies of all of it, so he would know what was necessary or unnecessary.

          I have yet to hear Thompson make any statements that contradict accounts given by sitting US congressman Bill Posey as was done with the reported source of the text messages. If and when that happens, I will no longer consider Posey a trustworthy source.

          • Argus Filch on August 2, 2015 at 10:04 pm said:

            “But the point of your hyperbole was to suggest the discarded documents were not related to the study when they were. Now you’re admitting they were, but were unnecessary to keep.”
            You keep trying to turn what I said into a strawman so you can knock it down and pretend you have given an answer. Go back and reread my first comment. I did not say that the papers being discarded were not related to the study. I pointed out that what was thrown out could have been duplicate copies, or papers that did not need to be retained.
            So why should we assume that anything sinister happened (assuming the story is even true or accurate)?

            • Argus Filch on August 7, 2015 at 12:56 am said:

              No response to this – really? Is that a concession that there really is nothing to this story?
              Anyway it has now being called the “Tempest in a Trash Can”:

              http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2015/08/06/a-congressman-a-cdc-whisteblower-and-an-autism-tempest-in-a-trashcan/

              Say, isn’t Emily Willingham the writer that you claimed wasn’t a Forbes contributor any more?

              • …by a blogger who last year pretended inconvenient CDC study results implicating thimerosal in causing autism didn’t exist when they actually did.

                Her quoted “expert” is a liar for saying, “No data was discarded.” Her concluding quote from CDC is equally dishonest: “That’s not how they do things at the Centers for Disease Control.” Yeah, because after lying for 15 years, it is suddenly going to capitulate. Her and her whole pharma-backed group National Association for “Science” Writers need to be targeted by Congress right alongside CDC for their role in the cover-up. Apparently Forbes realized it couldn’t separate itself from her after she received her “award,” so she was brought back.

                • Argus Filch on August 10, 2015 at 1:17 am said:

                  Proof of nothing. Just your own biased suppositions.

                  I get that this is your blog, where you express your own opinions, but shouldn’t the accusations you make of others be backed by some actual evidence?

  9. Hans Litten on July 31, 2015 at 9:55 pm said:

    Herod , interesting that you are not disputing my theory anymore , just my maths .
    So I take it then , you now accept Vaccines are the sole cause of the Autism Pandemic .
    And if finally you have reached that logical conclusion as most other intelligent beings do , then the next part of your natural progression and education is to ask yourself the question of whether this is a tragic 25 year long accident , or is simply about ca$h (possibly the worst business model in history), or we are looking at Hg-enocide (possibly the greatest eugenics plot in all history)?

    “Given that the UK has a birth cohort of ~700,000, I’m sure it would be fascinating if you showed your work.”

    • Narad on August 1, 2015 at 3:41 am said:

      Herod , interesting that you are not disputing my theory anymore , just my maths .

      Oh, right, you don’t know how to operate the “reply” link. Give it a try.

      • Hans Litten on August 6, 2015 at 1:32 pm said:

        That is typical of the paid mercenaries , never mind the criminal cartel behind the autism pandemic , but worry about the “reply” key . lol

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